getting feedback about heavy processing again when im not doing anything
so got this kind of feed back before when i tried the eyeball, so i stopped using it and got was able to get a submission accepted after that. im getting feedback about it again when dont do anything to the file except cut the mistakes and normalize. not sure what i should do. the rejection email also asked me to re submit but i cant find where to do that.
heres the clip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1YLsHFj_YU1aWZvSmFVbVRZNlE/view?usp=sharing
heres the project ID
22AC0F05C570F802E0AC
This is a backup of the project Trailer
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Hi Danilo
Thank you for sharing this!
So I was checking the recording and it, indeed, sounds as if it was processed with a noise reduction plugin. If you pay attention, the 'th' sound of 'This' sounds like an 's' but not from your performance, but as if it was degraded by the use of digital processing. Same at the endings of the files where the file sounds lower and with a loss of frequency response. If you don't use any processing, can you please explain to me how you edit your recordings? Maybe you're editing them in a way that degrades the quality!
This could also be triggered by a malfunction of your microphone or a phase problem. Can you share also with me which mic you're using?
Thanks!
You can also notice the degrading in the sounds of the 's' as the main frequency of the consonant is heavily toned down. Are you using a de-esser or any kind of processing?
hi angela,
im using a tlm 103. The hear what you mean with the th sounding like an s, thats actually my fault, came from the long recording doing an accent and kind of rubbed off i guess.
how i edit is literally just put the file in to repear, select the left channel, normalize, cut out mistakes, and render with -3db on the master mix.
for the S sound i try to hold it back a bit when pronouncing it because i got feedback somewhere else about sibilance. is that something im not supposed to do?
can you enlighten me about the part about the ending of the file where you say there lack of frequency response?
voice bunny has higher standards than the other sites/companies i work for and i want to learn as much as i could about the correct way of doing things so your feedback is much appreciated :)
Hi Danilo
In regards to the sibilance try to deliver you lines as natural as you can, later on, if there is an issue with the S you can try de-esser. In regards to the audio being processed, it might be caused by the render setting you are using once you are exporting the audio.
Hope this helps!
Hi Danilo!
Thanks for letting me know. Can you let me know which interface your using?
I'm not familiarized with Repear. However, if you're using Audacity and you meant 'repair', please don't use it. This is a noise reduction plugin that, when used incorrectly, degrades the quality of the audio a lot.
Now for the S sound, it's OK to try and pronounce it a bit less sibilant. Sibilance is, indeed, quite an annoying issue! However, what I meant is that, in this case, the 's' sounds as if you had cut off the high frequencies included in the 'S' sound which cause it to sound a bit like a slight lisp.
For example, at the 'york' of 'New york', you can pick up a bit of degradation of the frequency response and volume. You can pick a similar effect on 'Dubai'.
We do have some high standards! We want to make sure that not only our clients are left with the bes, top notch recordings, but we also want to help you guys improve and maximize the quality you provide.
Thank you for working with us!
Hi Juan,
Are there specific render settings i should be looking at? I believe the only things i changed were setting to 44100 and so that its renders to mono but its possible that something might have been accidentally changed.
Hi Angela,
Im using a focusrite scarlet 18i20 (i know youre probably thinking why im using something that big, but its because i already had it from recording drums).
Thank you for being specific in the issues with the S, york, and dubai. At the moment im still thinking it because im being overly careful with the delivery which might be making it sound natural. But at least i can work on that. Or is there a chance this might have to do with the mics proximity effect? Maybe i should perhaps try recording further to balance out the low end with lack of high ends that youre mentioning? im just taking i guess here :)
I totally get the high standards, the clients deserve nothing but the best work.
Hi Danilo!
Thanks for your awesome comments here. You could, indeed, try getting a bit further away! Also, check your editing settings as I think it could also be affecting the overall result.
You can record and share a new recording with us anytime!
Hey Danilo,
In my humble opinion, sometimes terms tend to fool us into not finding the root of the problem. Heavy processing or plugins are not the number one problem with your recording. A common mistake voice overs tend to do is go into an area that is not theirs. For example, we are used to movie trailer voices being so deep and bass-y with a little scruffy rough tone. You may try and go there, but if your voice is not meant for it, you will get the result which you did this time. I believe that you could have done that same job but with your natural voice with a better or maybe a different delivery and left the decision for the client.
Also, as Angela mentioned, you have to be very careful with pronunciation.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
thanks for insight Nadeem. yeah there was a prefered sample which sounded like this on the job post so i tried to go for it. reason i did so was last time i didnt do that and used my natural voice, i also got rejected by qc and was told that it may not be what the client is looking for. So, when those kind of jobs come in, is it best to just not go for it?
On that regard, Danilo, what I would suggest is for you to review the scope of the project and define whether your voice would be a good fit for it or not. I know we'd all like to audition and participate in everything, but this may not be a good idea when you see you're not the perfect fit.
To me, part of finding success in this industry is knowing what type of voices you can do and stick to that. This will not only allow you to become much much better at those specific voices, but will also help you market yourself much better. While you find that, what I would do is to read the remarks and listen to the sample. Try to read a bit of the script before accepting. If you see that your voice is not sounding natural or that you feel uncomfortable recording it, you may want to let other Pros take care of it.
This may help! :) We learn new things everyday!