HAHA, my samples were rejected for "audible room echo" - What a JOKE! There's ZERO reverb/echo, it's not even possible. Listen yourself.
Listen to my recordings. There's ZERO reverb whatsoever. I'm starting to think that the VoiceBunny "reviewers" are just trying to eliminate their competition by rejecting everything from other good voice talent that they feel compete to well against them.
https://mega.nz/file/RvhyxLgL#AiaWg_SjFp0bxVk_vfXQXkA8xudCQZN1VZFyr7QoAwg
https://mega.nz/file/FmgSjbxI#cni1JXvX61GuZvKwTWv9L0cKbBui59Yx1FBpnSZ6IzY
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Hey Adam, fellow voice artist here!
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I just listened to your recordings and I thought I was able to detect reverb at these points- for sample 01:
And, for sample 02:
For reference, I am listening on standard Skull Candy earbuds.
Perhaps listening back on different playback sources will help you to also identify these areas?
I only wish you the best in your journeys as a voice actor!
But, I also must say that Bunny Studio is by no means playing favorites. It took me literally thousands of recordings to get up to par to their premium level, and I always have to remember that their scrutiny is for the purpose of serving the client!
I hope you find this tidbit of constructive analysis from me to be helpful, I am only trying to unite voice artists to work together for better outcomes!
Although your sample seemed like a few different demos put together, I thought you have a very interesting and compelling voice- just maybe needs a bit of technical work?
I know how difficult rejections are, but I do believe the QC team does their best every day!
You got this!
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HAHAHA, you have got to be kidding me.
1) You're listening on Skull Candy earbuds? I highly suggest upgrading to some profession studio monitors.
2) I listened back, there's ZERO reverb at those places you mentioned. I'm not sure what you're hearing, but It's more than likely distortion from the downsampling to mp3.
3) I've been a vocal audio engineer for 15 years. I know what reverb ("echo") is, and I'm more than aware of how much reverb is passable on voice over projects on television, film, radio, etc. And I can assure you that if there's any "reverb" in my recording (which there's not), it wouldn't be anymore than is permissible on virtually any tv, radio, or film. I know, I've worked those rooms before. They have more reverb than mine does.
4) I always listen to my recordings on multiple sources, and monitors.
No offense, because you seem to be trying extra hard to be nice, but you're obviously very new to the industry. I went back and listened to those point and there is ZERO reverb. Again, you're probably confusing downsampling artifacts from the mp3 with "reverb."
I'm dumbfounded at how inexplicably poor the reviewers are. It makes zero sense to me. Anyone who is hearing reverb has a screw loose.
Hahah no, Adam- I can assure you, this is not a joke!
1) Why would I need to upgrade my headphones? Of course I have professional studio monitors and headphones- the point was to illustrate to you that if I can hear those echoes on regular consumer-grade earbuds, why would it be okay anywhere else?
2) Just listened again on my full studio setup and definitely still hearing all of the same echoes and reverb in the same spots. To me, it actually sounds like you are working in an improperly acoustically treated space! Maybe trying to point your microphone at a different angle or moving some of the treatments around would help? And definitely, editing out the spaces in-between will help!
3) Your "assurances" based on your apparent experience have no bearing in anyone's ability to still identify very subtle reverb in your current recordings... sorry to tell you, man!
4) Did you try listening back on regular, cheap earbuds- like 99% of end-listeners probably will?
Maybe because I am just a "newcomer" and have only made thousands and thousands of voice-overs for top publishers and brands with consistently good reviews and narrated hundreds of audiobooks I don't know what I am talking about...
Downsampling artifacts? Ooof...
But what I will say is it is clear that you are not actually looking for help...
So, I will pray for you!
Good luck! ✌️
I'm not looking for help from a "voice artist" who claims they hear "echo" in my recordings where there clearly is no reverb whatsoever. I posted to point out how poor the review process is where you can have perfectly clean recordings rejected for "echo" where there is clearly no echo.
"Did you try listening back on regular, cheap earbuds- like 99% of end-listeners probably will? "
Yes, I also do. Sounds great. No reverb/"echo".
On more thing Aaron,
I ran my audio file through the iZotope De-verb plugin and the plug-in literally couldn't find any reverb to remove. Even when I turned the setting up to the most sensitive possible. There's no reverb, not only do my trained ears hear that, but the iZotope De-Verb plugin can't even recognize any reverb to remove.
So, case-closed, there's no reverb in my audio.
Hello Adam and Aaron.
First of all, and before I even start with any sort of feedback, I would like to ask you Adam to keep the conversation in a friendly tone. I expect that we treat each other in the same way that we would like to be treated, and Aaron is being super friendly and kind by giving some of his feedback and thoughts on your recording. He has actually helped lots of Pros in our forums and we expect a nice tone between interactions here.
Now, onto my thoughts.
I think your acoustic setup is nice and it is better than many auditions I review on a daily basis. To be completely honest, I think there is no Reverb per se, but there are some near field reflections that are audible and could be mistakenly classified as reverb, Even so, I would like to check the complete samples since that might not have been the final reason for them to be rejected. If they were the ones you sent, they might have been rejected due to the edits on some sentences, since we prefer complete ideas and not fragments of texts as samples. In that case I advice you to upload complete phrases or sections that are over 10 seconds long (since short samples are rejected as well).
Please let me know and again, please keep the conversation in a friendly tone, although all of us have different experiences, we are always in a learning process and we should recognize and appreciate that from ourselves and from others as well!
Kind regards,
Daniel
These are expert points, as always, Daniel.
Near-field reflections are a great consideration, often overlooked.
Thanks for your kind words also, I am honored to know that my advice has helped other pros! That's truly all I aim for, even if I don't always have "perfect" input!
And I also agree with you, that we do have different experiences.
That's why I don't take things personally because, to be honest- I have been there too.
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Adam, my apologies if I don't know what to exactly call what I am hearing in your samples- but I think Daniel might really be onto something with these near-field reflections.
In fact, I think that is the main thing I was trying to talk about, and after Daniel's wise observation, I went ahead and spent 2 minutes manually editing out the near-field reflections in your sample I am sharing with you now- check out the second half of this and let me know if you can tell the difference?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v_ktTiIp85HGhmiCIkpbjXaCt4VXL-IY/view?usp=sharing
To me, the second example of this sample in my edit takes care of the reflections that I have been hearing this whole time- and it only required manually-added splits and fades to work!
I truly just wish you all the best in your journey.
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Thanks again for your comments Aaron, and for being such a good sport!
I will be awaiting any other comments or questions from any of you guys!
Kind regards,
Daniel
Daniel,
1) It's possible there could be some near-field reflection from my MacBook's monitor. The rest of the booth, including my very small desk, is covered in noise suppressant.
2) I resubmitted the same read in the same booth, and it was approved. It's a joke how inconsistent it is. My older samples are frankly much worse. They were recorded in my old booth, with my old setup. My hope was to replace them all eventually.
3) I wasn't aware of preferring longer segments of 10+ seconds. That's not a problem. I was just trying to make use of time.
Hi Adam,
That must be the surface causing those reflections, and it is good to hear it got approved! It must have been rejected due to those short phrases in the first place, and thanks for keeping that in mind.
I hope both of you guys have a great weekend!
Daniel