Another voice over rejection
VB have decided to reject my work for bddc044f-c57e-42ea-
I am getting just a little tired of these kind of unfounded rejections. What I believe actually happened is that a lot of pros answered the job but only one could be selected. Why do I think this? Because the job had been open for around ten hours before I submitted my effort.
I am asking you nicely, to either change the way you deal with Speedy's or start learning some honesty, because people will begin to walk away.
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for sharing this case with us. Regarding, boxiness there is a bit of resonance in the low mid frequency part of the spectrum but I don't believe it should be a reason for rejection.
In terms of mouth clicks, there are some saliva noises in " NME and FADER".
The one issue I do find kind of distracting are certain 's' sounds, for example in "special guests" every S stands out.
Regarding how speedies work, as we say the first Pro to accept it gets it. In this case, it was pending for almost 10 hours because of the timezone (it was launched at almost 10pm UK time) and you were the first to reply.
I'll forward this case to the team in order to improve our processes and do know we've now removed this rejection from your stats as I believe a revision would have been a better course of action.
Thanks again,
-Seb
You try speaking a word with "s" in and avoiding the "s" sound. What a lot of nonsense you speak. I think you should just use synthetic voices from now on as they won't have any of those irritating human anomalies.
I've given up trying to please you people. In the words of the great Orson Welles: "You people are such pests." Oops sorry about the "s" in "pests".
Oh and just one other point apropos my previous comment. Many years ago, as a sound engineer and producer, I was making a voice showreel for a struggling, out of work actor. At the end of the session, I pointed out to him that he had a bit of a sibilant "s". I told him that it was this that would make him money, because it added character. I kid you not, within five years, he was a millionaire. His million being made entirely from voice work, complete with the sibulent "s".
Over nearly 40 years, I have worked with and recorded many many actors and actresses in my time and each one of them had their own special quality. It is what makes us human.
What I can't understand is that you have accepted work from me in the past, recorded by my own voice, in the same environment. How is this so?
May I suggest it is time for you cut down on the analytics a little and stop treating us human voices as machines.
I feel unable to apply for any more jobs that might come up (for example Speedies and Contests), unless I am specifically asked, because, as I have mentioned, I cannot fathom what on earth you want from me or any other of the voice over pros. I do consider myself a pro too, I am a member of British Equity and that gives me a little bit of "pro" status I believe. Not that it means much to you all at VB.
Hi Rob,
On the topic of 's' and sibilance, they can sound distracting to some and great to others. It's subjective but most of our clients don't like it. As you are aware, we are your client, we are technically buying your voice and paying you for it, so it's in our discretion to approve or reject your voice. Speedies and contests are probably not a good fit in your case and I suggest you continue with bookings only.
In none of our comments have we said or implied you're not professional or doubted your abilities as a voice actor. We're merely pointing out areas of improvement.
We hope we can continue working with you as you are a valuable member of the community and as I said before, we are continually working to improve our processes and our feedback to Pros.
Hmmm, having to deal with rejection for such subjective reasons, does not make me feel that valuable in all honesty.
I've just had a listen to the voice you actually chose for this project. Now, this does sound boxy as you suggested initially mine did. As for saliva noises on NME and Fader. You are wrong, there is nothing of the sort. You're making this all up.
Start giving honest and constructive reasons for rejecting, not all the nonsense you appear to be coming out with.
Hello Rob
We've always provided constructive feedback, looking to help our Pros thrive in the platform. However, it is perfectly understandable that you'll disagree sometimes with our comments.
Nonetheless, there's no need to be on the defensive side here, Rob; by being sarcastic we won't find a solution. It only subtracts value from your argument.
I must agree with Sebastian regarding the saliva /mouth noise on NME. I am using a pair of ATH-M50 and I can clearly hear that noise with the volume not even halfway.
If you could please provide a dropbox, drive, SoundCloud link to this same recording, that would be wonderful, because only admins are able to check the revision link you've posted. This way, other members of the community can actually listen to it and share with us their opinion to confirm if it's about subjectivity or not.
Kind regards,
Oscar
If you mean those tiny noises after outlets and before NME and after NME and before the "and" in and fader, then I could only pick those up by scrubbing through the audio on a slow playback and who would do that whilst listening to Spotify? Please don't tell me it is those sounds you are talking about, otherwise, what hope do we have.
I think there is a need to be on the defensive, with respect to you Oscar, after all, it is my work and my reputation you are bringing into question and disrepute here and unless you don't know, sarcasm is a terribly British thing, that perhaps you don't quite grasp. As it is, I don't really feel I have been that sarcastic but given the opportunity, I could be.
You monitor on headphones do you? How interesting. I would have thought you would be listening on some decent studio quality monitor speakers. Hey ho.
I believe we are never going to agree on this. What you may see as inconsistencies, others probably wouldn't, including me.
Rob,
I agree with you; we're not going to agree on this one.
Nonetheless, I hope we can work on many more projects together!
Regards,
Oh yes, so do I, provided you don't reject them!